tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30664106.post7793916891570341657..comments2023-11-29T00:37:27.962-08:00Comments on PRETTY GIRL SHOOTER: Are Photo Apps the Digital Equivalent of Paint-By-Number Kits?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30664106.post-5877957005486250882012-04-09T09:32:23.303-07:002012-04-09T09:32:23.303-07:00@Rick: Yep. You're right. I'm familiar, BT...@Rick: Yep. You're right. I'm familiar, BTW, with Rosen's work. What a great quote from David Bailey. I wish I was aware of it when I wrote my ebook: Zen and the Art of Portrait Photography. I likely would have included it and expanded on much of what it encompasses.jimmydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04250574229270573468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30664106.post-72022382232239285902012-04-09T09:23:03.348-07:002012-04-09T09:23:03.348-07:00Once you take a photograph into Photoshop or any o...Once you take a photograph into Photoshop or any other program and manipulate that photo beyond the "traditional" darkroom techniques, you've morphed from a photographer into a graphic artist. <br /><br />While the foundation of the final product may still look like a photograph it no longer is. Take a look at the work of Michael Rosen and you'll see what I mean.<br /><br />I think David Bailey said it best with this quote: "It takes a lot of imagination to be a good photographer. You need less imagination to be a painter, because you can invent things. But in photography everything is so ordinary; it takes a lot of looking before you learn to see the ordinary."Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09033099579079928848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30664106.post-76390258316837056222012-04-06T08:31:30.520-07:002012-04-06T08:31:30.520-07:00@Bill: Agree about client's vision altho for m...@Bill: Agree about client's vision altho for most of what I shoot, I wouldn't call it vision. I understand that apps are simply tools, and perhaps my update should have focused more on craft than art, but what i'm seeing a lot of, a whole lot of, is people trying to pass off the the use of apps as some indicator of their creativity. It's like they think a crap photo is suddenly a really good photo simply because they applied the app and the app makes it look a little cool. The photo is good or not when it was snapped, not because some gimmicky post-prod app was applied.jimmydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04250574229270573468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30664106.post-55260420506404022662012-04-06T04:34:45.951-07:002012-04-06T04:34:45.951-07:00Among serious photographers, I think that most are...Among serious photographers, I think that most are craftsmen and few are artists. As craftsmen, we learn to use tools to create the photographs that we, or our clients, want. With a few exceptions, photographers working for clients shouldn't be too creative. It's the client's vision that you are trying to create. What's the difference between a photo app and a Photoshop action? The app was created by someone else and you use it as a tool. An action was created by you, or someone else, and used as a tool. I've done sepia toning on B&W prints in the darkroom. Is that really different from what we do digitally now? I think that there is an element of craft in all artists and the difference is in the tools that we use.Bill Gileshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14489162998247361041noreply@blogger.com